Dr. Steiner, an engineer and computer researcher at the University of Southern California's Information Sciences Institute, talks with Casey Luskin.
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For more on the study of green algae that Dr. Hunter cites, see our article at ENV, "NSF Study on Green Algae Finds Darwin Was Wrong About Competition."
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Hunter contrasts this with what University of Chicago molecular biologist James Shapiro has shown about his model of natural genetic engineering.
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